I have great love for the Rangers. We all do. I can understand what Wade is saying. I'm one of the ppl that are on. Just logged in at 1PM game time and I'm alone.
I will be taking one toon to a different kinship: Brytten. I will be joining a small kinship with old ppl like me. Those are my only plans for now.
Didn't want to have Brytten leave without explanation.. I would suggest that all of you decide which kind of kinship you want to be with and act accordingly. whether that be a consolidation into another kinship, going independently to another, or keeping this one intact.
I don't think you're stepping on anybody's toes. It's not the first time the question's come up and I think it's a fair one for each of us to think about: what would you like to see happen?
I know many of us (myself included) are not on as often as is needed for a thriving community. And that takes away from the fun people have, which is part of why some people are on less, or why some people have chosen to leave.
I care about the Rangers as a Kin, but I care more about the people who have made up that Kin over the years. I want the kin to be able to continue, and I hope that is the case, but I am mostly interested in still being able to connect with the people who make up, and have made up, the Rangers while I've been here. Whether that is in the Rangers, new homes people might choose to find, or through other channels, I think you're a great bunch and I really value having you in my social time.
Hoping more folks are able to chime in as always.
_________________ Massan, Captain Nutter of Withywindle
Neddor, Untrustworthy Guardian of Meneldor
I sure do miss you all!! Again, I am truly sorry I haven't been online in a long time. You know, one of those awful 4 letter words...L I F E. I do still plan to return. Don't know what the state of the Rangers will be, but I don't plan to leave. Of course, as others have said, do what is best for YOU. I just hope we can stay in contact. I sure wish the friend's list could be larger! Unfortunately I've hit the cap on mine, so I tended to not put Rangers on the list since I could see them on the kin list. Hopefully I don't lose anyone in the shuffle, because you are ALL important to me!!
Would love to see Fio back in the Fold. I see Galth, Wade, Jack, Talle, and Iggy at times. I have 7 toons in this kinship and I play with another kinship on 3 toons - but they (Grumpy Old People)are as dysfunctional as any. Been spending all my time lately revving up a cook. Dang -what a pain. Anyhow....since I have this forum: Let's do something.
Running an intense kinship where everything is based on raiding and getting the most new primo gear really hurt us I think. We didn't have the numbers and I think many ppl shied ways from doing TEBs because they did not know the other ppl. In the "good old days" we did kin things. I think of when I joined the kin back in about Dec 2013. Aes (Laz) was the leader and that's when I got hooked on Rangers.
I can't offer any solution that doesn't involve someone taking control. Unfortunately we don't have numbers. And I gave up running Guilds/Kinships long ago.
I'm feeling really idiotic right now. Would love to invite players to the kin - but what can I offer? None of my Weasl toons will leave this Kin until we iron this out. I play every day. So stay tuned and maybe we can get something going.
I'd just like to start by apologising for not being as responsive as I should, both here and in-game. Recently found out that chat servers don't work when I'm on campus Wi-Fi, so I don't receive messages from the kin or world chats. I'm not sure how much "right" I have to comment, seeing as I'm one of the newer players and I haven't been with LOTRO or the Rangers for even half as long as the rest of you have, but I did want to at least respond to this thread, so here goes.
I think that the uncertainty right now is mainly stemming from the fact that people have different interpretations of what a kin means to them. For me, a kin is a place where I can chat with fellow players and help others out with crafting, etc. if needed. But for others, it may mean a place where you have to contribute actively and run group stuff and show up for events.
So I think the first step to getting around this is, as Weasl has said, to decide what kind of kin the Rangers want to be. Will we be okay with having a balance of both, or will we prefer the interaction between people who often run group stuff together? There's nothing wrong with either, it's just a difference in direction.
It's been a lot busier IRL than I'd expected it to be when I first started my undergrad degree, so my game time has been cut down quite a bit as is. LOTRO is kind of like my escape just to be in Middle-Earth for a while, and I've always been a casual solo player, so it's never been my priority to do group content. I think all that stacked together + timezones + the fact that neither of my toons are at level cap is the reason why I don't take as much part in kin activities. I'm sorry - I mean this genuinely, so please don't think it's sarcasm! - if being so solo-centric was not the right fit for the kin.
That said, that's just me. I know plenty of people love being in kins because they'll have people to roll group content with, so it would be a shame to stop running them entirely.
I'd love for the kin to stay on as it is and try fresh recruitment, maybe. It's my second kin (leagues better than the first one, honestly) and I intend to stay for as long as it does. Again, I'm not sure how much "right" I have to say this, considering my casual playing hours and style don't contribute much to the kin, and I unfortunately cannot commit to trying to step up and help.
This turned out to be a lot longer than I intended it to. I just felt the need to post this (even though I'm a bit late) because I really don't want you to think that I don't care at all. Once again, I apologise for not being able to contribute as much as many of you have, and I will ultimately support whatever comes to be the general consensus of the kin.
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Well I guess I need to put my 2 cents in here too. I've been quiet lately because I haven't been on very much. It's just too disheartening to play when nobody else is on. The Rangers has been my "home away from home" for the last several years. It has changed much over the years. As most of my friends have left one by one my heart sort of wilted. I love the game but I loved my friends the most. It was a family. I guess things always have to change unfortunately. I will not leave the Rangers but I guess that is because of the past more than the present. I really hope the kin can be revitalized because it is just too special to disband. I suppose if that happens I'll just quit the game like everybody else has done. When your real life isn't very happy any longer the Rangers always welcomed me with open arms. That was their strength. I hope it can become strong again.
Sorry, I just reread what I wrote and it seems a little depressive. But at least it's honest. Please turn this kin back into a family again. Just my thoughts.
Not sure what I should say at this point. I took 3 of my alts to a different Kinship a while back, but not very happy there. So I left them. Now i feel like I'm alone every day. I think Wade took a lot of his toons out of the kinship in the last day or so. So the only ppl I see are the Swedes - Glennson, Swarls, Gliitra. (and I like their style). Don't know if anyone reads this, but we need to get a leader who can somehow make a difference. I ran a lot of Kins/Guilds over the last 15 years or so. It's not easy and sometimes it's not fun. I have decided to just stand pat. So I believe I should be given the chance to at least keep the Kin alive. I play every day and see no one else that does that. Where did Ned go? I think I could be the Kin leader as we try to survive.
Welcome to comments. Thanks, this was very difficult to write.